Bonus Episode: 2026 Trade Deadline Recap

Trades don’t just move players—they reveal how teams see their window. We dig into a wild NHL trade deadline where bold gambles, clever cap work, and gritty depth bets collided. The headline moves delivered plenty to unpack: Anaheim snagged John Carlson to stabilize a young blue line and supercharge special teams, Colorado reunited with Nazem Kadri to weaponize center depth, and Utah landed MacKenzie Weegar to anchor a defense with real identity. Behind those splashes were the quieter deals that decide spring hockey: Buffalo loading up on size and snarl, Dallas balancing reach with scoring touch, Minnesota stacking veteran blue line help, and Vegas hinting at a future goalie splash by shifting their pipeline.

We share what these moves actually mean on the ice. For Anaheim, the Carlson fit is about right-shot minutes and where he quarterbacks the power play alongside LaCombe. Colorado’s depth becomes punishing if Kadri slides to 3C and drives matchups without sacrificing pace. Utah’s Weegar play was a franchise move—paying picks to win on AAV for a high-minute driver who makes partners better. We also spotlight LA’s efficient asset flip, Toronto’s cap housekeeping, Washington’s retooling, and why Edmonton’s tweaks might help on the margins but don’t change their ceiling.

To make it practical, we grade role fits over name value, connect cap mechanics to roster balance, and map how these choices affect playoff series—board battles, defensive exits under pressure, second chances in the slot. We close by calling winners, losers, and the biggest shockers, then look ahead at the Ducks’ favorable schedule and how to use it to sharpen special teams and pairings before the stakes spike.

If you enjoyed this deep-dive, follow the show, share it with a hockey friend, and leave a quick review—it helps more fans find smart, no-fluff analysis. What was your favorite or most confusing deadline move? Tell us and we’ll feature the best takes next week.

Transcript

Setting The Stage And Guest Intro

SPEAKER_01 1:14

Welcome back, royally quacked fans. I know it's different hearing my voice right away because normally you hear the royally spoiled guy on the podcast. Um he's working a volleyball tournament right now, but I have a special guest helping me out uh today. We're doing a full trade deadline recap. Normally me and my dad do it, but he's busy and then he's leaving for Texas tomorrow, so he won't have time to do it tomorrow either. So I got Captain of Chaos on the pod with me. How you doing, Adam?

SPEAKER_04 1:46

Good, buddy. How you doing?

SPEAKER_01 1:47

I'm doing great. I'm happy that I have a three-day weekend. I work four days and then I'll be on vacation for a week.

SPEAKER_04 1:55

Well, I work in a warehouse, I don't do days off.

SPEAKER_01 1:58

Yeah. I I I'm a propane driver. Sometimes I don't get days off, even because I'm on call.

SPEAKER_03 2:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:05

Which is funny because this was actually supposed to be my on-call weekend, but someone couldn't do their weekend, so he switched with me, and then they didn't look to see that. Oh, I'm gonna be gone that whole week. So I was like, I can't do that week because I'll be in Nashville. And they're like, oh. And one of the guys like, I'll take it because he just wants all the overtime. I'm like, take it, it's all yours.

SPEAKER_04 2:32

Yeah, it sounds about right.

Early Moves And Value Debates

SPEAKER_01 2:33

Which I was okay with because I was like, it's a trade deadline weekend. I want to do an extra episode for this, and I'm like, I don't want to be on call for it, and especially with my dad doing his volleyball thing, so yeah, but all right, well, let's get started. We're gonna start with the March 1st trade. There's only one trade that day, it's between the Philadelphia Flyers and the Minnesota Wild. Um, the Philadelphia Flyers acquire Boris Kachuk from the Minnesota Wild for Roman Schmidt. It just seems like an AHL trade, pretty much. Um, let's see, uh left wing for a defenseman. And both of them are at the end of their contracts, look like. So it looks like a basic AHL trade. And the next one is a is a pretty actually big one. The Edmonton Oilers acquire Connor Murphy at 50% retained from the Chicago Blackhawks for a 2028 second round pick.

SPEAKER_04 3:33

I mean, with that one, I was actually kind of surprised that they got him with that trade value. You think that there would have been a little bit more, like maybe a prospect in there, maybe I don't know, bottom sixth guy, bottom, you know. I thought they would have got a little bit more value out of that trade.

SPEAKER_01 3:50

Uh oh, Chicago would have got more value?

SPEAKER_03 3:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 3:54

Yeah. I mean, a second round, a 2028 second round pick. I mean, you never know where Edmonton could be at, because who knows? Like David could be gone around that time.

SPEAKER_04 4:03

True.

SPEAKER_01 4:03

So that I end up could being a very high second-round pick, almost first round pick. You never know.

SPEAKER_04 4:10

Yeah, that's true. I mean, but even then, like second-round pick don't always plan out to be a top six player.

SPEAKER_01 4:16

Yeah, but Connor Murphy's not a he I would say what he's a more of like a four, five, six kind of defenseman.

SPEAKER_04 4:25

Yeah, he's probably, I mean, he's definitely probably, you know, bottom pairing style defenseman, but he's still a fairly solid defenseman. I mean, you put him on any.

SPEAKER_01 4:35

I'm not saying anything against Connor Murphy. I I would have on the duck side, I don't even know what shot. Oh, let's see. What's it is it? He's a right-handed shot defenseman, too.

SPEAKER_04 4:44

So I mean, that would I mean, honestly, just that right there would help out the ducks, you know, right off the bat.

SPEAKER_01 4:49

Yeah. So no, a hundred percent. Um, and of course, it kicked me out. Of course. Um, let's see. Yeah, you want to talk about the next uh or do you have anything else about this trade or do you want to move on to the next one?

SPEAKER_04 5:03

No, we can move on to the next one.

unknown 5:05

All right.

SPEAKER_03 5:06

Uh the next one we have is the Minnesota Wild.

SPEAKER_04 5:17

Oh, okay. I got it. So yeah, the Minnesota Wild have acquired Michael McCron for a McLaren. McLaren McCron. A Hawkshi name. And I got a 20 2028 second round pick for the Minnesota Wild. I am not seeing any retainment. It looks like no retainment.

SPEAKER_01 5:41

Yeah, no, it was just uh Minnesota acquiring uh some depth in their lineup. A second round pick for a guy that's probably gonna play bottom six minutes is a pretty high it's a pretty high price.

SPEAKER_04 5:56

Well, I mean, plus I mean he's you know he's age 30, so I mean he's gonna be on the downhill of his career after this because usually, at least for the skaters, the prime you know starts going down after 31. I mean it's it's not a terrible one.

SPEAKER_01 6:11

I mean but uh but a big guy.

SPEAKER_04 6:14

McCarran is a big dude. Oh, absolutely. I'm surprised Verbeat didn't go after him.

SPEAKER_01 6:19

I don't think we needed someone like him. We needed m more scoring help than oh, I wouldn't say scoring help, but we'll get to more about that later.

SPEAKER_04 6:29

Um I'm just saying that like size-wise, he's a verbique guy.

SPEAKER_01 6:33

Oh yeah, he's definitely a verbique guy, yeah. Hands down. Yeah, but I I mean I think it was just Minnesota Wild getting deaf and wanting to get big for the playoffs.

SPEAKER_04 6:47

Yeah, I could see that. At least they have that grit behind them.

SPEAKER_01 6:51

Yeah. Then uh the next trade we got is the Vegas Golden Knights acquire Cole Smith from the Nashville Predators for a 2028 third round pick. And looks like uh uh entry-level guy, Chris Christopher S Sadoff, I believe is his name.

SPEAKER_04 7:10

Let's see, is there any yeah, he's 24 years old, so more than likely he's a prospect in the system right now.

SPEAKER_01 7:17

Yeah, he's on his I think la he's on his last year, and so is Cole Smith. So uh I mean, like I said, I I would say just a nice little debt move for um Vegas, getting another uh a left winger at a very small cap hit, too.

SPEAKER_04 7:36

Yeah, yeah, he is definitely a small cap hit.

Size, Grit, And Depth Additions

SPEAKER_01 7:39

Yeah. And at the end of the uh episode, we'll break down all the where everyone's at at the cap too. Um but like I said, I that's just a big death move for the the Knights. Next one is a pr is one that uh I'm not shocked that he went there because he already declined to trade pretty much. Um but the Dallas Stars acquired Tyler Myers at 50% retained from the Vancouver Canucks for a 2027 second round pick and a 2029 fourth round pick. Um Tyler Myers, who has a$3 million cap hit, and Dallas is only getting him for this year and next year at one and a half million.

SPEAKER_04 8:26

Yeah, so I mean at least they get a little uh a little value out of an older player because I mean in reality, do you think he's gonna you know play much longer after, you know, his because he's 36 right now, 37 next year. You know, especially for the NHL, that's definitely gonna take a toll on his body. So I mean who knows? Maybe they got him for the rest of his career. But yeah, I mean it's a nice little depth move for them. They're gonna you know get some good solid minutes out of him and definitely gonna help him out for that playoff run.

SPEAKER_01 8:56

Oh yeah, and I guess another I believe he's what six seven, six eight, right-handed shot. I believe he's right-handed shot. Yeah, right, a right-handed shot defenseman. So who wouldn't want that?

SPEAKER_03 9:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 9:10

You know, and I think he's gonna be playing, you know, third pairing. You know, because I mean Dallas already has Hiskin and Lund, was that Lundell? Was that Lindell? Lundell, they uh one of the uh Lindell. Yeah, Lindell. Oh, because uh Florida has Lundell.

SPEAKER_04 9:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 9:27

Uh was it who else do they have? They have Harley, the shell. Like I said, they're they're already stacked defensively, and I think this is just having someone on the right side with size and a right-handed shot.

SPEAKER_04 9:40

I mean, it could very well just to have that little extra depth too of putting in a seventh defenseman, you know, on the roster ready to go.

SPEAKER_01 9:47

Yep. Yeah, I I I see him playing more third pairing than being the seventh.

SPEAKER_04 9:53

No, yeah, no, definitely. But you know, anyway it goes. I mean, you never know who's gonna be the hot defenseman at the time. So, like I said, I mean it could be a seventh defenseman situation, it could be a third pairing.

SPEAKER_01 10:04

Yeah. So good move for Dallas right there. And um well, I meant before so Tyler Maris was already was supposed to get traded to Detroit, and I guess he did not want to go there. I don't I didn't see if he had a a no trade clause on his thing. Actually, I'm gonna look real quick. Did he have does he have a no trade clause?

SPEAKER_04 10:26

I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 10:26

I haven't doesn't say anything on your oh let's see. Oh a tw uh in year three? Oh, he he had a t a 12-team no trade list. So maybe Dallas, or not Dallas, sorry. Maybe Detroit was on that 12 teams. Uh trade list.

SPEAKER_04 10:48

I mean, I know Detroit's kind of coming back, but would you want to go play in Detroit?

SPEAKER_01 10:54

I mean, where they're at right now, I wouldn't mind it. Because they're playing well right now, and they if you I mean they needed a right-handed shot guy, which they end up getting later.

SPEAKER_03 11:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 11:09

So, but I would say here's a a pretty big trade right here. Uh, Utah Mammoth acquire Mackenzie Uygh from the Calgary Flames for Oldie Mata, Jonathan Kastinga, a 2026 second round pick, um, which is man the mammoth, a 2026 second-round pick from New York, and a 2026 second round pick that's Ottawa's.

SPEAKER_04 11:35

Yeah, that one that one I was kind of mad about. This is uh one of the players that I was hoping the Ducks would have gone after.

SPEAKER_01 11:42

I honestly I a hundred percent agree. He's 32 years old, right-handed shot. Um he's in year three of an eight-year contract, I had a pretty good cap hit at 6.25 million AAV. Yeah. So I I 100% agree. I would have loved to pick him up. And the thing is, um Oli Mada signed a three-year deal with uh Utah in the offseason after I believe he was part of the Panthers Stanley Cup run, right?

SPEAKER_04 12:18

I believe so. I would have to look that up.

SPEAKER_01 12:21

Yeah, so he has a three and a half million dollar cap hit, and so really the Utah only gained$2.75 million uh less in the cap hit for getting Mackenzie Weager.

SPEAKER_04 12:35

Yeah, I mean they they definitely got their value out of that trade. Yes. Um plus, I mean, they're also kind of using draft capital that they have, you know, with using the Rangers draft pick and Ottawa's draft pick, you know, to sweeten the deal. So it's not like they're losing a whole lot on top of the losing leader on its own.

SPEAKER_01 12:55

Yeah, and Jonathan Stagga is a 20-year-old centerman. Uh, I don't know where he's at right now or anything, so because it doesn't even say he has a contract, so it could be just a prospect. But yeah, this is uh a player that I did want the the ducks to go after.

SPEAKER_04 13:13

Uh he's currently at Cornell University, so he is probably within the system and they have his signing right. He just hasn't signed.

Cap Maneuvers And Vegas Signals

SPEAKER_01 13:20

Yeah, so there you go. All right, uh next trade. The Colorado Avalanche acquire Nick Blakenberg from the Nashville Predators for a 2027 fifth round pick. Um Blakenberg's on it year two of his contract out of two years, so he is he will be a free agent after this year. And his caps it cap hit is uh at league minimum seven uh 775k. So not bad.

SPEAKER_04 13:47

No, that's it's another one of those depth runs on the trade that they're just trying to you know have the depth for their playoff run.

SPEAKER_01 13:55

Yeah, he'll he'll be a seventh defenseman, pretty much. Alright, next one, which I I was shocked on this one. The Edmonton Oilers acquire Jason Dickinson, 50% retained, Colton Doc from the Chicago Blackhawks for Andrew Maggiapani in a conditional 2027 first-round pick.

SPEAKER_04 14:18

And why were you talking about that one?

SPEAKER_01 14:21

Well, I didn't think I didn't think the Edmonton Oilers were gonna go after Dickinson and and Colton Doc. I thought they were gonna be going after other players for deaf and stuff like that. Uh I I I and the only reason why Chicago got the second round or that first round pick is because Manji Apawney's contract. But I mean this actually ended up helping the Oilers out cap wise, because with this trade they saved uh a little over what was it,$650,000 in cap.

SPEAKER_04 15:02

Yeah, I mean plus, you know, Colton Box, he's gonna you know be down playing in Bakersfield, so it's not like he's seeing any top time anytime anytime soon.

SPEAKER_00 15:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 15:12

I mean, but Dickinson, he's probably gonna be what, maybe their fourth line center? Yeah, he'll be the fourth line. I'm trying to think of who their third line center is right now.

SPEAKER_01 15:23

Oh god, who is it? Uh Henrique?

SPEAKER_04 15:29

Is he third or second line?

SPEAKER_01 15:31

Well, I mean I mean, do you have McDavid and Dry Side on the same line or are they centering their own line?

SPEAKER_04 15:38

No, they're usually on the same line together.

SPEAKER_01 15:41

What about uh Nugent Hopkins?

SPEAKER_04 15:45

Not so that's the one I couldn't think of. So Henry's probably the third line center. So Dickinson will probably uh fourth line.

SPEAKER_01 15:53

Yeah. So like I said, I mean I I don't hate the move for them. I I but I feel like the Oilers didn't get better with these moves that they've made.

SPEAKER_04 16:07

I mean, I don't think they got better, but I don't think they got worse.

SPEAKER_00 16:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 16:11

It's almost like uh it's almost like a in reality like a one-for-one trade, like just finish right across the board.

SPEAKER_01 16:19

Yeah. And they got Maggio Pawnee. Um, so what helps Edmonton in this is Dickinson and Doc are both on their last year of their contracts. Magio Pawnee still had a 3.6 million cap hit for this year and next year. Yeah. So they just got rid of that next year of Maggio Pawnee. So I I think that's the main part of this move.

SPEAKER_03 16:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 16:47

Um, next up is uh Vegas Golden Knights acquire Nick Dowd from the Washington Capitals for Jesper Vickman, a 2029 second round pick, and a 2027 third round pick that belongs to the San Jose Sharks. And uh Nick Dowd is on year one of two at a three million dollar cap hit. So they'll have so Vegas will have him for this season and next season, and he's a centerman at 35 years old.

SPEAKER_04 17:18

Yeah. And they gave up their um actually now that I look at it and seeing it. Um Vegas actually gave up their number one goalie prospect. I want to say he was playing with Henderson.

SPEAKER_01 17:35

Oh, okay. It makes me wonder if they with this move are the I feel like they're gonna go big for a goalie in the offseason.

SPEAKER_04 17:49

Maybe. I mean, but I don't know. I can't think of it right now if who's actually gonna be out there on the market.

SPEAKER_01 17:56

Well, I mean, I don't know if there's any big goalies that are gonna be available, but I meant trade-wise they could. I mean, because I heard them going after Bennington, I heard them going after uh Babrowski. Babrowski could be a you know, play for another what one or two years probably.

SPEAKER_04 18:18

Yeah, but I mean I'd is Florida really gonna give him up.

SPEAKER_01 18:21

I mean, unless Well, he's Bob's a free agent after this season.

SPEAKER_04 18:25

Yeah, I just don't see him leaving Florida anytime soon, though.

Utah’s Uyghur Splash And Missed Ducks Chance

SPEAKER_01 18:30

Yeah, I don't see it either. Um next trade. Uh Colorado Avalanche acquire Nick Waugh from the Toronto Maple Leaps for a 2027 first round pick and a 2026 fifth round pick.

SPEAKER_04 18:47

This one just seems like uh Colorado is just or uh Toronto was dumping cap space.

SPEAKER_01 18:54

I I would say it's a little bit of both, like yeah, Toronto dumping cap and Colorado getting some center depth. Because I know they they've I think they that's like what they lack is you know the b a bottom six depth. Yeah. Because I mean after their first two lines, I mean McKinnon's playing, it feels like I mean, I swear when the Ducks played Colorado this last week, I felt like McKinnon and McCarr were on the ice like every minute.

SPEAKER_04 19:23

Yeah, it it felt like they had at least 35 minutes of ice time since we're literally what I thought.

SPEAKER_01 19:28

And I think when I looked, they were like at 26 or 27 or whatever. I'm like, nah, they were on there a lot more than that.

SPEAKER_04 19:34

Yeah, it felt way more.

SPEAKER_01 19:36

Way more than that. Um, so like I said, I I think it's just exactly what you said Toronto dumping cap, and Colorado's like, hey, we'll help you with that, and we want this, we want a depth piece, so yeah. Um, next one. Vancouver Canucks acquired Jack Thompson from the San Jose Sharks for jet woo. Uh it seems like just a straight up AHL trade. I don't know if you know any anything about these guys.

SPEAKER_04 20:05

No, they don't they don't ring a bell for me.

SPEAKER_01 20:09

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 20:10

But half the time I don't pay attention to anybody outside of the goals of the rain.

SPEAKER_01 20:14

Yeah. All right, next trade. The Minnesota Wild Wild acquired Jeff Petrie from the Florida Panthers for conditional 2026 seventh round pick.

SPEAKER_04 20:26

So I wonder what the condition is.

SPEAKER_01 20:29

Um it will tell you. Um becomes a 2026 fifth round pick if Minnesota wins two playoff rounds and Petrie plays in 50% or more of the Wild's playoff games during those first two rounds.

SPEAKER_04 20:46

Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_01 20:49

So it I think Jeff Petrie's there just for, like I said, being a sixth or seventh defenseman.

SPEAKER_04 20:56

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's kind of hard to justify that. He's gonna be anything other than a bottoms defenseman, especially at age 38.

SPEAKER_01 21:05

Yeah. See, is he is he a right shot? Is it right shot? A lot of right-handed shot defensemen. So I I think just good little work for the wild.

SPEAKER_04 21:16

Yeah. Yeah, it seems like that they're trying to get that veteran presence in uh Minnesota to help out the younger guys. So, you know, maybe this year they can get a deeper run in the playoffs, or they're definitely gearing up to get these guys the experience for the next couple of years.

SPEAKER_01 21:30

Yeah. All right, uh, next up, the Dallas Stars acquire Michael Bunting from the Nashville Predators for a 2026 third round pick, which belongs to Seattle. So just I would say honestly a good move for Dallas on this one. They get a a left winger, age 30, a guy that can score. And I know he's a big guy too. He can lay some hits. The only thing is like the four and a half million cap hit, but that's only for this year.

SPEAKER_04 22:00

Yeah, but that's also I think that's Maxville trying to make up for Stamkos' contract.

SPEAKER_01 22:05

Stamcos, Marsha Show, and everything, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 22:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:09

Yeah. I I which I'm surprised those guys didn't get traded, but I mean they still got time on their contracts. So I guess that just I think a nice little just extra winger to to go in their bottom six that can that can score and also lay some hits.

SPEAKER_04 22:26

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:27

And it's not gonna hurt Dallas this year because they were able to use that Tyler Sagan money pretty much.

SPEAKER_03 22:32

Yeah.

Oilers Shuffle And Bottom-Six Math

SPEAKER_01 22:33

Since he's out for the rest of the year. So um, next trade. The Ottawa Senators acquire Warren Fogle. And a conditional 2026 third round pick from the uh LA uh Kings. I was about to say Lakers. LA Kings for a 2026 second round pick, which belongs to Buffalo, and a conditional third round pick. And I'll tell you what those conditions are. Alright, so the Ottawa draft pick that Ottawa gets. So right now it's a draft pick that belongs to Dallas for a third-round pick. Ottawa will get the worst of the Kings own or Dallas uh third round pick.

SPEAKER_04 23:18

So they get the they get the lower draft pick?

SPEAKER_01 23:21

Yeah. So but between the Kings or the Dallas third round pick. So I'm always confused when they say lower or higher. I'm like, wait, so is that the better or the worst pick?

SPEAKER_04 23:34

Yeah. So I mean technically lower would be probably the better pick.

SPEAKER_01 23:40

Yeah, so if that's what I'm guessing. So that's what Ottawa get. Um and Warren Fogel is on contract for this year and next year at a three three and a half million cap hit. So the Kings got out of that cap hit. Um and they were got a second round pick, and the third round conditional pick is LA will get the better of Ottawa's own or Washington's 2026 third round pick. However, if both Ottawa and Washington do not qualify for the 2026 playoffs, then Ottawa will instead transfer to LA the worst of the two picks. God, this how do they come up with these trades?

SPEAKER_04 24:32

I have no idea. But I mean, I mean, at least in this one, I mean Ottawa is getting a solid left winger. I mean Fogos. I would say he's definitely like a bottom sixth winger. I don't think he has uh a top you know fifth winger. He's a solid player, though. I mean, I can't complain about you know what he's done over in LA, other than him being in LA. But I mean, I think this is a good pickup for Ottawa. I mean, there's I think they're even though I think he is a bottom fifth winger, I think he might actually have like good times like trying to play with like Rennie Kachuk and all in.

SPEAKER_01 25:10

See, I I I think I brought it up on the podcast with my dad. I would have t I I asked him, would you do Vitranto straight up for Fogel?

SPEAKER_04 25:21

I don't know if I would do that one. I I think Fogel would be a better piece in Anaheim than Vitrano would be in LA.

SPEAKER_01 25:30

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. For the Ducks, wise, I think I I think it could have worked because Kings get a scoring guy like Vitrano, someone that can shoot, and the Ducks get a some defensive help on the forwards.

SPEAKER_03 25:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 25:44

That's why I thought in the Ducks could have got out of the uh what four over four million that he's making a year, and Fogle is only on for this year next year.

SPEAKER_04 25:54

Yeah. But at the same time, I think one of the reasons Vitrano is so successful in Anaheim is the people that are around him. Like he gets a lot of guys that can open up the ice for him, and you know, he a lot of the times, you know, Vitano finds his way to the front of the net and picks up a lot of the you know garbage rebounds. Yeah. I I don't see that happening in LA.

SPEAKER_01 26:17

I will say this. So far, for Ken Holland as a GM of the Kings, I trust him with trades. I don't trust him signing players. Because I will say he got for just Deneau and Fogle, who were having both horrible years this year, he got two second-round picks and a third round pick for those guys.

SPEAKER_04 26:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 26:45

I will say good trade work for Holland, and he also got out of Deneau's five million dollar cap hit and Fogle's$3.5 million cap hit.

SPEAKER_03 26:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 26:57

So I will say good work from Holland so far. Just don't let him sign players. Um the next up, the Detroit. Wait.

SPEAKER_04 27:10

He also got he also got out of more cap hit, too. We'll cover later.

Centers, Dumps, And Depth In Colorado

SPEAKER_01 27:14

Yeah, we'll cover it later, yeah. Which not it's not that much of a cap hit, but um the Detroit Red Wings acquire David Perron from the Ottawa Senators for a conditional 2026 fourth round pick. Let's see what that condition is. David Perron just loves going back to old teams, doesn't he?

SPEAKER_04 27:34

I know, right?

SPEAKER_01 27:35

Um if Perron plays one game, one game, Ottawa gets um the Columbus Blue Jack gets a 2026 fourth round pick, it upgrades to a 2026 third round pick if the Red Wings advance to the second round and Peron plays in 50% of the first round. So right now it's just it's just their pick, right? No, it is it is Columbus's pick. So well, okay. Uh and uh this is Perron's last year on his contract with the four million dollar cap hit, then he'll more likely go back to the to the blues. Yeah. Yeah, and just retire there. Next one is I'm actually ha I'm actually happy with this move. Are you? Yes, and I'll tell you why after. So the Compass Blue Jackets acquire Connor Garland from the Vancouver Canucks for a 2028 second round pick and a 2026 third round pick. The reason why I'm happy is Connor Garland is finally out of the Pacific Division.

SPEAKER_04 28:50

True.

SPEAKER_01 28:51

I I said Connor Garland is someone that you would love to have him on your team and you hate your team playing against him.

SPEAKER_04 29:00

True. I don't know why why I had the notion of it, but for some reason I thought if anyone was gonna pick him up, I just saw him like being a good fit in Dallas. Like I thought he was going to Dallas.

SPEAKER_01 29:13

Like I did not so the main reason why Dallas couldn't get him is because you see the cap hit right there, that 4.9 million.

SPEAKER_04 29:22

Basically five million, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 29:24

Yeah. But after this year, his he has a six-year, six million dollar extension. Oh, okay. And Dallas couldn't get that because they would need to re-sign Robertson.

SPEAKER_04 29:35

Yeah. If they re-sign him.

SPEAKER_01 29:38

If they re-sign him, but the future Anaheim Duck Jason Robertson. But yeah, so that I guess that's the only reason why I like this trade is because I don't have to see Connor Garland four times a year.

SPEAKER_04 29:53

Right. Yeah, I mean, he's a plus drafted by he was drafted by Arizona.

SPEAKER_01 29:59

Yes, I believe so. Let's see. Yeah, draft team, fifth round, 123rd pick in 2015. And then he got traded to um Vancouver.

SPEAKER_04 30:14

Yeah, I was gonna say he's only been with the two teams if I remember correctly.

SPEAKER_00 30:18

Yes.

SPEAKER_04 30:19

Well, technically three because no, he was still with Arizona when he went to Was it still Arizona before Utah? I don't know. What did he say?

SPEAKER_01 30:30

He's been in Vancouver for a while now.

SPEAKER_04 30:34

Technically, he's only been with the two teams.

SPEAKER_01 30:36

Yeah, so he got traded in July of 2021 with Oliver Ekman Larson from Arizona to Vancouver. So well before Utah. So like I said, I I'm happy to see Connor Garland out of the Pacific Division away from the Ducks.

SPEAKER_03 30:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 30:56

Oh, he was always a pest. Yeah, I mean he but I I respect the game. I re I respect his play. So I do. Because that's someone who I wouldn't have minded on the ducks.

SPEAKER_04 31:10

He was uh the duck counterpart for you period.

SPEAKER_01 31:17

Yeah, just um a mini-me version. But like I said, I but he's someone that I've I've thought the ducks have needed because he goes in front to the net.

Veteran Defensemen To Minnesota

SPEAKER_04 31:30

Oh no, yeah, absolutely. He kind of he kind of reminds me a little bit of Brad Monson, like he's just kind of all over the place, and somehow he gets involved in everything, but he always finds his way to the front of the net, which is kind of like that Cory Purry style.

SPEAKER_01 31:44

Yeah. Alright, uh next trade is Duck's legend. Um Sam Carrick goes to the Buffalo Savers in exchange for a 2026 third round pick and a 2026 sixth round pick that belongs to Chicago. So you're gonna hear a lot of Buffalo trades after this.

SPEAKER_04 32:06

Yeah, they they went on the market.

SPEAKER_01 32:08

Mm-hmm. They definitely did. So Sam Carrick is in year two of three with a one million dollar cap hit. So I I think it's just Buffalo getting that fourth line center that can fight too.

SPEAKER_04 32:24

Yeah. Yeah, they're they're going for that grit. Because I mean, Buffalo is definitely trying to up their game. And I mean, they're going on a good run right now. I mean, they're definitely turning around their team, but yeah, yeah. I think he's more there for that kind of enforcer role.

SPEAKER_01 32:40

I I I will say I didn't mind Carrick on the ducks, but we I'm kind of glad he's not there anymore, because I don't know, would you rather have him or Johnston? Johnston. Okay. That's I agree.

SPEAKER_04 32:53

Johnston has a he has a slight upside in offensive prowess than Carrick did.

SPEAKER_01 33:01

Yeah, I see that. I know you've seen Carrick more in the AHL ver than you did in NHL.

SPEAKER_04 33:08

Yeah, and he was more of an enforcer down in the AHL than he was in the NHL, but I think he's just there for the grit of it.

SPEAKER_01 33:16

Yep. Next up, another Sabres trade. The Buffalo Sabres acquire Logan Stanley and Luke Shen at 50% retained from the Winnipeg Jets for uh Jacob Bryson, Isaac Rosen, a 2027 second round pick, and a conditional 2026 fourth round pick. So they get a right-handed shot defenseman and a left-handed shot defenseman.

SPEAKER_04 33:45

They get one coming into his prime and one way out of his prime.

SPEAKER_01 33:49

Yeah. Um Stanley, it will be a UFA after this season. And let's see, is he and Shen will also be a UFA? The condition on the fourth round pick is the better of Buffalo or Edmonton's 2026 fourth round pick. So it's gonna be either Buffalo's or or Edmonton's.

SPEAKER_04 34:15

But it's still a fourth round pick.

SPEAKER_01 34:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 34:18

I don't know. I just I mean this one I don't really have an issue with it either, which way I just think Buffalo is like I said, the Buffalo is trying to step up their game and definitely try to provide for the future. Even though they are getting rid of draft picks. They're trying to get their playoff game now instead of their prospect game of trying they're trying to avoid the rebuild.

SPEAKER_01 34:44

Yes. I think they've had enough prospects and picks over the last 14 years.

SPEAKER_03 34:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 34:50

Um, the next next trade, which shocked I think the I yeah, I I think it just shocked the NHL in general because I mean who really thought that this was gonna happen because the Anaheim Ducks acquired John Carlton in front of the Washington Capitals for a conditional 2026 first round pick and a 2027 third round pick. Uh both of those draft picks are coming from the Ducks. So what is the condition?

SPEAKER_01 35:18

I have it right here. You want me to say it?

SPEAKER_04 35:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 35:21

All right. Should Anaheim qualify for the 2026 Stanley Cup playoffs, Anaheim will transfer its 2026 first round pick to Washington. If Anaheim fails to qualify for the 2026 playoffs, Anaheim has the option to retain its 2026 first round pick and transfer its 2027 to Washington instead.

SPEAKER_04 35:46

So either way, it's a first-round draft pick, it's a matter of twenty-six or twenty-seven.

SPEAKER_01 35:51

Yes.

SPEAKER_04 35:52

And then we're probably losing this year's draft pick.

SPEAKER_01 35:58

No, that's if they that's if they don't qualify.

SPEAKER_04 36:02

No, if they qualify, we lose the draft pick this year. If they don't qualify, then we have the option of 26 or 27, right?

SPEAKER_01 36:10

So no. So should Anaheim qualify for the this playoffs, Anaheim will transfer the 2026 first round pick to Washington. So it's gonna be a 2026.

SPEAKER_04 36:22

If I'm saying that this summer we're losing our draft pick.

SPEAKER_01 36:29

Yes. This summer we're losing our draft pick, yes.

SPEAKER_04 36:32

Because I'm planning on those playoffs.

SPEAKER_01 36:34

Yes, I am too. So where were you awake when this happened? Because I was asleep when this happened. I was at work when this happened. Yeah. I I woke up to go to the bathroom and I don't know, I I just had a feeling like I should check my phone. So and it was like what 11:30 at night. I'm usually in bed by nine o'clock to go to work for me.

SPEAKER_04 36:58

Uh between 10 and 10.30. Because I want to say it was uh even though the the rumor is the trade was done earlier in the day, the ducks waited for it to be posted until after midnight because then they didn't have to worry about the roster specifications. And they didn't have to worry about sending someone down or cutting someone. So that's why it got recorded after I want to say 1 a.m. Um, which is why it got recorded so late because they didn't want to have to adjust the roster.

SPEAKER_01 37:28

See now, here's the thing. If it was done that early, you would think John Carlson would have known ahead of time, because John Carlson and I had something in common. We were both asleep when we found out this happened.

SPEAKER_04 37:42

I wonder how true that is, though. I mean, unless he was asleep first thing in the morning when they notified him of the trade, but I think he had to know something that day.

Ottawa–LA Swap And Pick Conditions

SPEAKER_01 37:51

Yeah. So because he could have been out in Anaheim a lot sooner.

SPEAKER_04 37:56

Yeah, I don't think he I don't think he was informed at one o'clock in the morning, like, hey, your trade finally went through. I think he knew it was happening or it was agreed upon.

SPEAKER_01 38:07

Yeah. So honestly, I I I like the move. We get that a big right-handed shot guy, someone that can is is good defensively. I mean, not the best defensively, but better than what we already have. And he's gonna be a power play two quarterback. So no more.

SPEAKER_04 38:29

You think he'll be power play two, or do you think he'll move up to one?

SPEAKER_01 38:32

No, look, keep Lacomb at one. He already looks good there.

SPEAKER_04 38:36

Yeah, but he's I don't know. I think the experience is gonna bump Lacomb down to two and Carlson will be on one. He just he has more experience. He has um he's basically been tried and true in that position already. I think he would bring more value on power play one because he can definitely uh quarterback the younger kids better, even though Lacomb is the up-and-coming, you know, potential of a better player. I just think that experience is gonna pump Lacombe where it'll it'll also show Lacomb what to do after you know after Carlson's.

SPEAKER_01 39:14

I could see I think the first few games, I think they're gonna keep Lacombe at one and then Carlson at two. But I could see during practice times or like those morning skates when they practice if they have time, maybe try Carlson at PP1 and Lacomb at PP2. But I think Carlson would be better at power play two because that one needs help more because I mean right now you have Truba with Minti there, and if you have just Carlson, then you can add another forward or have Minty and or Zeli with Carlson and they can learn, and then you have a right shot and a left shot guy on there.

SPEAKER_04 39:54

True. I mean, it could go either way. I mean, yeah, even if you put Carlson up on power play one and uh Lacomb down to two, you could still add in that fourth uh offensive player either way, you go.

SPEAKER_01 40:07

But I I could I could see Carlson more on the power play two, just because Lacombs looked really good on the power play one with Carlson and Beckett. So I I say we I I kind of want to keep him there because that's where he's been all season.

SPEAKER_03 40:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 40:21

But I I wouldn't mind seeing Carlson on power play two. Or sorry, on power play one.

SPEAKER_00 40:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 40:27

I mean, maybe if Lacomb's been playing a lot on the PK and and everything, then yeah, put Carlson on power play one and give Lacomb a little bit of rest.

SPEAKER_04 40:36

Yeah, no, I agree. Um my I think my only issue with this trade is since we are giving up a first round draft pick for I mean, essentially a rental because he's on his you know year eight of his contract of eight years. If we don't re-sign him for at least one more year, I think we should have at least had Washington return some of his salary. Like, maybe not up the half, but even if you just retained a quarter of the salary, I would have been okay with that better than just poking on the full salary and giving up the first and third round draft pick. No, honestly, I I like maybe at least like 25% at a minimum they should have retained 25% for not knowing if we can re-sign him for one more year, but yeah, with the first round draft pick, either with way out of there, they should have retained some kind of salary on that one.

SPEAKER_01 41:32

No, yeah. And honestly, like now it makes me wonder with this move, if the ducks do decide to re-sign Carlson, John Carlson, you know, for one or two years, does that mean one of Truba or Gudis is you know no longer a duck come next season?

SPEAKER_04 41:57

It's a possibility, but at the same time.

SPEAKER_01 42:01

Because now you'll have what five right-handed shot guys? Yeah, but at the same time.

SPEAKER_02 42:08

Sorry, six.

SPEAKER_01 42:09

You'll have Truba, Gudis, Carlson, Luneau, Hellison, and more. All right-handed shot guys.

SPEAKER_04 42:18

I don't think more's going anywhere.

SPEAKER_01 42:20

I think uh No, I'm not saying more. I'm not saying like unless unless more Luneau or Hellison are in a trade package for someone in the offseason, you know, but if none of them are getting traded, I could see one of Truba or both. Truba or goodness or both gone, not being ducks next year.

SPEAKER_04 42:42

It's a possibility, but like I'm kind of playing the devil's advocate here, because I mean I can see Lemo, I could see possibly Minty, maybe Zellwigger also being in a trade package out of here to open up the space for him. I don't think it's the right process to do it. Um, I mean, as much as I love Goodith and I appreciate his game, I think out of the older guys, he's probably the best one to go. I mean, at least at least Truba, you know, provides offensively. I mean, well, he provides offensively more than Goodit, though.

Garland Escapes The Pacific

SPEAKER_01 43:19

Well, I I think Truba's at what ten goals this year?

SPEAKER_04 43:23

Something like that. You know.

SPEAKER_02 43:25

But even then, I mean, what are what is assist at?

SPEAKER_04 43:27

Because I mean he seems to be assisting a lot of goals as well.

SPEAKER_01 43:31

Alright, let me pull that up. I can tell you right now. Let's see stats. Alright, so assist. Truba has 20 assists, so he has 30 points. Good as two goals and ten assists.

SPEAKER_04 43:51

Yeah. I mean, like I said, I mean, at least offensively is a better run, so he's gotta keep around.

SPEAKER_01 43:57

Truba is 32 and good as 35, 36, 35. And he'll be 36 in June. Truba will be he just turned 32. So and Carlson is already 36 right now.

SPEAKER_04 44:23

Yeah, but I think I would honestly I would probably hate to say it, but get rid of our captain and keep Carlson if I could.

SPEAKER_01 44:33

And oh so and here's the thing um John Carlson just turned thirty six in January.

SPEAKER_04 44:41

Yeah, but I mean a 36-year-old defenseman in the AHL, how much longer do you think we're gonna hold out or hold up for?

SPEAKER_01 44:49

Yeah, but if if I to choose between who I want between Gudis and Carlson, I'm leaning more towards Carlson.

SPEAKER_04 44:57

No, yeah. No, I agree too. Like I said, I mean I I love the butcher, but Yes. I would I would definitely keep this team's future and uh potential Stanley Cup run in the process.

Buffalo Loads Up On Grit And Size

SPEAKER_01 45:11

Yeah, so uh that that was a trade I think that shocked everyone. Next up, uh Minnesota Wild acquire Bobby Brink from the Philadelphia Flyers for David Yurichek. So I think it was a simple one-for-one trade. I think just both guys needed a change of scenery. So um Bobby Brink is 24, uh right winger, and David Yurichek, I believe it's a right-handed shot defenseman. Right-handed shot defenseman. And David Yurichek was you know someone who I actually wanted the ducks to go after a while a while ago. Um, both of them are on the last year of their contract, so they will um, but Yurichek is an RFA, and I think Bobby Brink will be a UFA.

SPEAKER_04 46:01

Either that or he has one maybe one more year of the RFA.

SPEAKER_00 46:08

Um, let's see.

SPEAKER_01 46:10

I got kicked out of it again.

SPEAKER_00 46:11

Hold on. I I I I hit the back button one too many times.

SPEAKER_03 46:21

No RFA.

SPEAKER_04 46:25

Yeah, he'll uh he'll be a UFA this summer.

SPEAKER_01 46:28

So I I I think it's just a cheat a change of scenery kind of thing.

SPEAKER_04 46:33

Yeah. Yeah, because there's an RFA at fires at the age 2024-2026. So yeah, he's uh RFA at this or a UFA this summer.

SPEAKER_01 46:43

Yeah. Alright, uh next trade. Um the Boston Bruins acquire Massimo Rizzo and Alex Gendron from the Philadelphia Flyers for Brett Harrison and Jackson Edward. I think literally AHL trade.

SPEAKER_04 47:00

Yeah, it's a Friday ACL trade because I'm not seeing any kind of cap hits, so they're not gaining anything, losing anything, so it's definitely a just a swap across the board for prospects.

SPEAKER_01 47:09

Yep. All right, next trade. The Chicago Blackhawks trade their captain, Nick Felino, to the Minnesota Wild for future considerations.

SPEAKER_04 47:19

I was rather shocked about this one. Like I I agree. I want to know what's on the table for the future considerations that make to see what made or what made this trade because it makes absolutely no sense one way or another. Like, are you getting cash back? Are you getting prospects back? Are you getting picks back? Like, do you have an opportunity to you know try and steal, you know, what uh Quinn Hughes from Minnesota? Like this just makes absolutely no sense to me. I want to know, I want to know what the future considerations on the table are.

SPEAKER_01 47:54

I don't think do have we ever really ever found out about any con future considerations? No, because usually it's like a bag of pucks.

SPEAKER_04 48:05

Yeah, like a bag of pucks, like you know, fill up my soda machines. Like you never know what kind of big thing is. Some money ball, some money balls. I was gonna say you never know what kind of Billy Beans. You never know what kind of Billy Bean create is in there. Like, I I want to know what's on the table though, because like I said, this this just makes no sense to me whatsoever.

SPEAKER_01 48:26

Um yeah, so Nick Felino is uh uh will be a UFA after this year. Um he gets to he is get he is reuniting for with his brother. Um oh, what's his brother's name? Marcus Felino.

SPEAKER_04 48:41

Yeah, I mean that's the only maybe that was a consideration. That's the only sense that this trade makes is that he's reuniting with his brother.

SPEAKER_01 48:50

Yeah. But uh like I said, good for Chicago for getting out of that four and a half million dollar cap hit.

SPEAKER_04 48:57

Yeah, I mean, what what's the consideration? Is Minnesota gonna have to cover uh Bedard's next contract?

SPEAKER_01 49:04

Like can you imagine? You you have to retain 50% of Bedard's uh$100 million cap hit.

SPEAKER_03 49:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 49:15

While you're also paying, you know, Capri Sol for the next eight years.

SPEAKER_03 49:19

Yeah.

The Ducks Land John Carlson

SPEAKER_01 49:19

Alright, so speaking of future considerations, the Minnesota Wild trade Vinnie Hinnestrossa to the Florida Panthers for future considerations This one seems just like a depth trade.

SPEAKER_04 49:34

Like Florida's just trying to get that depth in their on their roster. Um also while saving a little bit of a top hit, but not a whole lot. I don't really see like this one. I can just see it as a depth side, like I don't see now now.

SPEAKER_01 49:51

Does the future considerations from Florida to Minnesota go from Minnesota to Chicago?

SPEAKER_04 49:57

Maybe, who knows?

SPEAKER_01 49:58

It's all connected. All right, and here and here is what uh Adam was talking about earlier about trading away another Kings player. I was kind of shocked they did because I heard was it Thursday or Friday that the Kings were looking to extend Corey Perry, but instead the Tampa Bay Lightning acquire Corey Perry, 50% retained from the LA Kings for a 2028 second round pick. So think about it. For Deneau, Fogle, and Perry, three second-round picks and a third round pick.

SPEAKER_03 50:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 50:36

And Perry was the one that was actually, I think he he alone already had more points and goals than Fogle and Deneau combined. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 50:44

But I mean at the same time, though, I mean, you got Corey Perry, age 40, and you got a second-round draft pick for him. I mean, I I think that's great value out of Corey Perry that you know he can still command a second-round draft pick.

SPEAKER_01 50:58

Yeah, and Corey Perry is, like I said, signed a one-year deal with the Kings. Now, this just may has me wondering. The Lightning is losing in the Stanley Cup Finals, obviously now. And does Corey come back and pla and finish his year as an Anaheim duck next year?

SPEAKER_04 51:20

I don't know. I mean, does he retire after this year? Because I could see I don't think he's gonna come back for a full season. I think if he wants to retire with the Ducks, it's gonna be like a one-day contract just to sign to retire.

SPEAKER_01 51:38

I mean, all right, now would you be mad if the Ducks signed Perry to one year, one million dollar cap hit, and he's the captain next year?

SPEAKER_04 51:47

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 51:48

You'd be mad? Are you about that?

SPEAKER_04 51:51

No, I would be absolutely pissed about it. I I respect the game. I would appreciate his game. I just hate Corey Perry. I mean, even when he was a duck previously, I didn't like him. He he's that type of dirty player that I just can't dance. Like I I understand that you're gonna get us that nitty, gritty, you know, tough-nosed player in front of the network. But in my personal opinion, he's just a piece of crap. And I mean, I would want the game on the team, I don't want Corey Perry on the team.

SPEAKER_01 52:27

Now, here is my question. So Corey Perry has extra uh bonuses with his contract. Who gets those bonuses now? Does Lightning get those bonuses or do the Kings get the bonuses?

SPEAKER_04 52:43

Well, that's curious, because I mean the Kings are retaining 50% of his contract. I wonder that is quite yeah, that is a curious question.

SPEAKER_01 52:55

Here's his um notes. Um which he already got the these are all the ones that he already got from the Kings. Uh he got 500k after playing 10 games. Um he gets 250,000 um at 20, 30, 40, and 50 games played. And I think he's played 50 games for the Kings.

SPEAKER_04 53:20

So then the Kings would be on the hook for that because they already had to have paid him out.

SPEAKER_01 53:25

Yes. Now here now, but now there's more. He gets 125k for winning the first round, 250k for winning the second round, and 125k for winning the third round.

SPEAKER_04 53:38

That'll be covered by Tampa.

SPEAKER_01 53:41

That'll be covered by Tampa.

SPEAKER_04 53:42

Yeah, I mean if he doesn't with them, so Tampa would probably be on the hook for that. Okay. Unless Tampa's only on the hook for off of it, since it's 50% retained.

SPEAKER_01 53:54

Yeah. It just it had me uh because I knew he had the performance bonuses or the you know those player bonuses. So I I was very curious on how that worked.

SPEAKER_04 54:04

Yeah, but he he played exactly 50 games with the king. Which is that's hilarious.

SPEAKER_01 54:10

All right, next trade.

SPEAKER_04 54:12

40 years old, you had 11 goals, 17 assists for 28 points.

SPEAKER_01 54:15

I mean, well, he was the king's best player for a while.

SPEAKER_04 54:20

Which is sad month, month he was the best player.

SPEAKER_01 54:24

Which the that trade still had me laugh, or not trade. Uh Cory Perry being a king had me laughing because one I hated it, but I loved it because then Kings had to love him.

SPEAKER_04 54:34

I loved it just because I watched all of my friends that are Kings fans leave them. Which is even better now that he's traded, these same people that hated him getting signed with the Kings are pissed off that he's leaving the games. And it's funny to watch, like, wait, wait, what weren't you mad at the beginning of the season when they signed him? Now you're mad that he's leaving.

SPEAKER_00 54:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 54:55

But like I said, good trade work from Holland, I would say. Yeah. This year. Getting a second round pick for a 40-year-old player. So, uh, next trade. The Pittsburgh Penguins acquire Elmer Soderblom from the Detroit Red Wings for a 2026 third-round pick that belongs to San Jose. And Soderbomb is in year one of two with a$1.125 million AAV.

SPEAKER_04 55:29

Yeah, I was kind of surprised that he left Detroit. I mean, with Detroit trying to, you know, make a playoff push and try to get a deep run in Pittsburgh on the massive decline. I was kind of surprised that this happened because I figured he would probably want to stay within the Detroit system and have a better, you know, a better chance of moving on. But also at the same time, was this just one of those thirds that couldn't be avoided?

SPEAKER_01 55:55

Yeah, and he's a big big boy, 6'8.

SPEAKER_04 55:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 56:00

Wow.

Power Play Fit And Blue Line Logjam

SPEAKER_01 56:01

Um, like I said, I I think is I think it was just uh Pittsburgh wanting some help on the forward depth and stuff like that, and I think they needed to get bigger. So probably um but yeah, I guess that it really helped Detroit because they that relieved you know his whole uh his contract.

SPEAKER_03 56:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 56:24

So they opened up some cap space for this year and next year. So um next trade is an AHL trade. The Chicago Blackhawks acquire Derek Palo Pilot Playot from the Yeah, sure. Um from the New York Rangers for Aiden Thompson. That name was at least easy to say. Um a 32-year-old AHL guy for a 24-year-old AH AHL guy. Um Thompson is in year one of two, and uh actually they're both in year one of two, so they both will expire next season. After next season. So a basic AHL trade. And I actually had a couple fans ask me about this before the trade deadline happened. What are we gonna do with Ryan Strom? Well, here's what happened: the Calgary Flames acquire Ryan Strom from the Anaheim Ducks for a 2027 seventh round pick. So the Ducks get out of uh Ryan Strom's five million dollar cap hit for this year and next year, which helps a lot.

SPEAKER_04 57:32

Yeah, but he could have been involved in the Carlson trade, he could have been put into a package to get a wee like.

SPEAKER_01 57:39

I thought the same thing with the Carlson trade, because then you would have re um reunited him with his brother.

SPEAKER_04 57:45

Yeah. Well, I mean, at the same time, like what I'm trying to say is that you know with the Carlson trade, like, you know, we maybe not have lost a first-round pick if we gave up Strome. But yeah, I mean, if you were gonna send Strome to Calgary, why couldn't he have been in a trade package to get Uyghur? Like we I figured Ryan Strome was gonna leave in a package. I didn't think we're just gonna get a meager seventh-round draft pit for him.

SPEAKER_01 58:11

Yeah, but I would say the main thing is I mean, we're playing Ian Moore, who's a defenseman, up at forward more than we were playing Ryan Strome. And honestly, and I don't know if anyone listens to Crash Upon. I know you do, I do, and they were praising Ryan Strome because they were saying like this was probably one of his better years, but he just wasn't seeing the ice. Yeah, which and I actually I agree. Like I noticed his defensive game was a little bit better, he was making better plays in the offensive zone, and he was winning more face-offs than he has in years past. So I actually liked him playing a forward. The only good thing I like about Ryan Strome is, and I hate to say it, is if it wasn't for him being injured at the beginning of the year, we wouldn't be seeing Beckett Seneca right now.

SPEAKER_04 58:58

That's true, that is very true.

SPEAKER_01 59:01

So I I I will miss Ryan Strome. He was a great locker room guy, and I and I do like seeing him on the social media stuff because he always cracks me up. And I I wouldn't be shocked if we see him on TV one day.

SPEAKER_04 59:17

No, I mean true. I mean, it's gonna sound harsh, but to me personally, Ryan Strome, now that he's not a duck, I mean, he's just gonna kind of be one of those forgot players, like, hey, it was nice while you're here, but now that you're gone, no one cares type thing. But I could definitely see him maybe staying around the game and becoming a commentator.

SPEAKER_01 59:37

Yeah, I could see it. He has the he has the knack for it.

SPEAKER_04 59:41

He needs to take over uh Innocent Eaton's job.

unknown 59:44

Oh god.

SPEAKER_01 59:45

Oh, so I know I'm not gonna say it. I'm not gonna say it.

SPEAKER_04 59:51

So all right, so dealing with Captain Chaos, say it.

SPEAKER_01 59:54

Okay. So when I listen to my podcast normally, I listen at one and a half speed on a psycho.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:03

Yeah. So so when I was listening to I think it was Emerson Edom talk with I want to say it was like Fitrano, Strome, and somebody else. And they had Strome do like an ad, and at one and a half speed with Ryan Strome, it sounded a lot smoother and everything than what Emerson Edom does on radio at normal speed.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:30

That's all that's the only thing I have against Edom is just the way he tries to get through those ads as fast as possible.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:40

I don't know. He's just annoying to me. I don't like Edom on the radio.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:44

I I don't listen to the radio that much.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:47

I'll do it occasionally when I'm in the car, but I mean you can have much better people on the radio than Eatham. He just seems awkward. Like he just seems awkward, like he wants to be playing the game still instead of commentating it, and you can definitely notice that. Like you you can tell that he doesn't want to be there, but he's trying to stay relevant and keep a job. That's how I feel.

Change-Of-Scenery Swaps And AHL Moves

SPEAKER_01 1:01:16

Okay, makes sense. But uh, but thank you, Ryan Strom, for the first th three and a half years. So I said, I didn't hate him, but I'm I'm glad his cap hit is gone.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:33

No, I didn't hate him either, but like I said, he's just he's forgettable. Like he's not gonna be one of those names, like man, the wish we still had it.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:40

Yeah, yeah. No, I know. Yeah, because I had someone asking me a couple weeks ago, but it was dur still during like the Olympics was going on, and they were saying, why is Ryan Strom still on this team? I'm like, well, one, they couldn't do anything because of the roster freeze, but I'm like, just give it to the trade deadline. Like what happened.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:00

So I I didn't think he was gonna last on his roster plus this year.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:05

I I agree. If it if he wasn't gone by you know yesterday, it was gonna be in the offseason.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:11

Yeah, definitely.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:12

So all right, next trade is another former duck. Uh Carolina Hurricanes acquire Nick Delorier from the Philadelphia Flyers for a 2027 seventh round pick.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:23

I think he's more of a duck leg than a Eric.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:27

Yeah, oh, yeah. No, I 100% agree with that. No. But you know, you know which duck player who I kind of still wished was on the team?

SPEAKER_04 1:02:39

DeLoria.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:41

No, I DeLore had his faults and stuff like that. But no, he was on the team last year. And I I thought with Quenville, I think he really could have really been fun to see on a line with Paling and Johnston as um Brett Leeson. I liked the way Brett Leeson played. And I think Brett Leeson would have been a great playoff, like fourth line forward for playoffs. Like, I'm just saying. Maybe. I mean, he's a uh and he's a I think he'd he would have been really good on the PK because he's a big guy. He's 6'5 and he has that long stick.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:25

Yeah, I don't know. I wasn't a big fan of his.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:29

Well, I mean, we also you have we had him under Cronin.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:32

Yeah, true.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:33

And I think with Quenville, I mean look what Quenville did with Johnston, for God's sakes.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:40

Yeah, true.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:42

So I think someone that's someone who I did wish the Ducks would have kept is Brett Leeson just to see how he would have done with Quenville.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:50

Yeah, I mean that's a possibility. So I don't know. Like he's to me, he's another one of those forgettable players.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:57

Yeah. I I appreciate the small people like I like the Harkins. I like the I appreciate Johnston now this year than I did last year, I can tell you that. Um Nestor and two.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:11

I'm all about the gritty players. I mean, I like that I I'm a little bit older than you and you know, remember the grit players of you know the early 90s and the 80s. Like I like that style of hockey. You gotta have physicality to you know make those deep runs in the playoffs. Like, I don't disagree. Like, I I like the nitty-gritty players, but sometimes those players are forgettable.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:37

Yeah. So I'm just ready. I didn't even see that. There was a condition on the on that Nick Delorier uh pick. The pick transfers if Hurricanes win at least two playoff rounds in 2026, and DeLaurier uh plays 50% of the playoff games in 2026.

Strome Dumped And Locker Room Ripples

SPEAKER_04 1:05:05

So wait. So if So they've gotta make it to the Eastern Conference Finals and he's gonna play at least halfway games.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:13

So if they if you so if Hurricane if Hurricanes lose in the second round, is it just no pick?

SPEAKER_04 1:05:25

Say it again. Say the community.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:28

The pick transfers if Hurricanes win at least two playoff rounds in 2026 and DeLoria plays in 50% of the playoff games.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:37

So if they lose the second round and no, the pick doesn't transfer. But what I'm curious though, if they have the Hurricanes had to play the wild card. Is that considered a playoff round?

SPEAKER_01 1:05:50

There is no wild card in hockey.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:55

Oh no, never mind.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:56

Um No, I mean like the playoff gets in. Never mind, um Don't listen to me. I'm not here today.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:11

I I usually do that, Adam.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:13

So my my allergies are getting the best of me.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:15

That's nothing new. I don't listen to you, so all right. Next trade. The Boston Bruins acquire Lucas Reichel from the Vancouver Canucks for a 2026, sixth, sixth round pick. Uh Boston finally adds another center and a young one, so that might help.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:33

So is that a 2026 round pick or a 2026 round pick?

SPEAKER_01 1:06:37

2026, sixth round pick.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:40

There we go. I'm just making sure that you enunciated that one.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:43

English is not my first language. I've said it on the pod many times.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:47

No, it is your first language. You're just bad at it.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:50

Nope. Sarcasm is my first one.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:52

I'm just kidding. No, no, you had to learn sarcasm after you learned language.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:56

Actually, I learned sarcasm before I learned English, really, so it makes sense if you don't think about it.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:02

Debatable.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:04

Yeah. Alright. Next trade. And here's the one that we were talking about with the Detroit Detroit. The Detroit Red Wings acquired Justin Falk from the St. Louis Blues for Justin Hall. Dimitri Buchnovik Vok. No, I didn't. Justin Hall, Dmitry Buchnel Nikov. What a name. 2026 first round pick and a 2026 third round pick that belongs to San Jose. And Justin Fulk is not going to be a free agent after this year. He has this year and next year at a six and a half million cap hit. So I I so uh Detroit finally gets that right handed shot that they've been trying. They tried with Anderson, they tried with Weyger, they tried with Myers. Somebody else they tried to get. I just can't remember. Somebody else.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:09

I can't think of who who that was.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:12

I know.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:13

But yeah, they got out of Justin Hall, who's gonna be a free agent this year. Uh Dimitri is uh not even the system, so I think he's in the prospect pool uh 2026 first round pick, and then the 2026 third round pick that belongs to San Jose.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:30

He's gonna sell the C S K A Moscova.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:35

Okay. So and then uh the Washington Capitals acquire Timothy Lillegrin.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:42

Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:47

Because you by you bypassed uh the Boston Bruins acquiring Lucas Reichel. No, I already talked about that one. No, you didn't. We went we went straight from the Laurier to the No, because remember you made fun of me saying the 2026 sixth-round pick.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:00

That was that Lucas Reichel one.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:03

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:04

Yeah. Is that what you meant? You said I skipped one? I thought you did. No, we talked about it. Because I even said Boston got that little setter death that they needed.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:12

Oh I was over here getting yelled at for being too loud on the podcast, so I missed it.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:16

Good job, Andrea. You could tell her I said that. So as I was saying before, but I was before I was rudely interrupted by not skipping anything. The Washington what was that?

SPEAKER_02 1:09:34

Go ahead.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:37

I know how to say it. The Washington Capitals acquired Timothy Lilligren from the San Jose Sharks for a 2026 fourth round pick that belongs to Vegas. I know how to say the name. I'm not my dad, okay?

SPEAKER_04 1:09:56

It's okay. I would have screwed it up anyway.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:58

Yeah. How were you gonna say it? I Lil Liljagrin? Probably. I don't know. Yeah, I I knew how to say it. I would have probably added too many L's in there. Lolalagrin. Um I think it's just um Washington adding a defenseman after giving up Carlson.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:23

Yeah. Yeah, it's trying to also uh give up uh I think uh San Jose, even though they don't need it, was just getting rid of the cap hit as well. I mean getting another fourth round prospect, fourth round draft prospect.

Corey Perry Saga And Bonus Questions

SPEAKER_01 1:10:40

And it's not even their pick, so yeah. Um Buffalo Sabres acquired Tanner Pearson from the Winnipeg Jets for a 2026 seventh round pick. Like again, I think it was just Buffalo adding players big, and that has playoff experience. Oh, yeah, definitely. And then I would say another trade that happened that shocked a lot of people is the New York Islanders acquire Braden Shen, the captain of the St. Louis Blues, for Jonathan Druin, Marcus Godolf, a 2026 first round pick that belongs to Colorado, and a 2026 third round pick that belongs to New Jersey. I would say an overpay on that one.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:31

Well, but they're retaining on that as well, though.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:37

Who's retaining?

SPEAKER_04 1:11:41

Oh no, no, I'm doing the math wrong. Yeah, um, oh, because you're seeing that Yeah, I saw the I saw the cap hit and was thinking it was retainment. Yeah, no, I mean Honestly, I was surprised Finn left uh St. Louis. But this is definitely the mainland is trying to trying to pick up a um later depth.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:07

Um playoff depth.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:10

Yeah, and sh like I said, Shen is in year six of eight at a six and a half million dollar cap hit, and Jonathan Druin, who's on year one of two at a four million dollar cap hit for the blues now. Um, I'm just surprised that new New York is you know really going for it this year.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:32

Well they gotta they gotta try and build a team around our uh Calder Cup defensemen.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:38

Well, what no Calder Cup runner-up Calder Trophy runner-up.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:47

I'm trying to think of no what the because uh in our Calder Cup race defensemen. I'm not saying they're gonna be a good one. Calder trophy.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:59

Calder cup is AHL Stanley Cups.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:02

Yeah, but rookie of the year, who cares?

SPEAKER_01 1:13:05

Yeah, yeah. But they're they're Caldy Trophy runner-up Matthew Schaefer. Exactly. Because if Duck is gonna win it this year.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:15

I'm just saying he's in the race for it.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:17

Yeah, he is in the race.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:19

The Islanders have to build up their team around him because especially with the cap that he's at right now. Who else do they have?

SPEAKER_01 1:13:27

Yes. Um, the Calgary Flames acquire Brendan Offman from the New York Rangers for Jacob Pataglia.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:38

This is great age, Alfred.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:39

Yeah. I know Brendan Offman is a he was a highly touted Ranger prospect for a while. I don't know where he's at now, but I've heard his name a lot.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:50

Well, he's obviously with Calgary. Well, he's with Calgary now, so so he's probably gonna be up in Avant or um. He's still gonna be in Calgary with the Wranglers.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:02

Yeah, pretty much. And then here's the trade that you were talking about earlier. The one that shocked the world, but also didn't shock the world. Um, we kind of saw it coming, but Colorado Avalanche acquire Nazim Kodri, 20% retained, and a 2027 fourth fourth round pick from Calgary in exchange for Victor Olifson, Maximilian Karan, a conditional 2028 first round pick, and a conditional 2027 second round pick. Let's see, what are the conditions on these? So the first round pick. Oh, you got it?

SPEAKER_04 1:14:44

Well, no, I was gonna say the prospect is currently in second junior.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:49

Oh uh Maximilian Coran?

SPEAKER_04 1:14:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:52

All right, the conditions on the first round pick. Um if Colorado's 2027 first round pick, which is top 10 protected, the Nick Raw trade goes to Toronto, Calgary acquires a 2028 first round pick, top 10 protected, slides to 2029. If the 2027 first round pick is top 10, and the 2028 slides to Toronto, then Calgary receives Colorado's 2029 first round pick unconditionally. God, where do they come up with these things or these conditions? So right now, the 2027 pick is going to Toronto.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:42

I'm so confused.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:43

Okay, so right now the 2027.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:45

I mean, I I understand what they're saying, but like the thought process of how these trades come about.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:51

Yeah, I know.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:52

Which there's too much to think about.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:54

Yeah, and then the second round condition, the 2027 second round pick is the better of Colorado or Minnesota's second round pick. So it's probably Minnesota's pick. So Nazam Codri heads back to Colorado. Your thoughts.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:16

Why? Like Colorado's too good as it is. Yeah, and I mean, I I wouldn't want to be on a dying franchise in Calgary. I mean, that's almost like playing for Toronto. Just worse. But I mean, why? Colorado doesn't need him.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:41

I mean, if you're if Nazam Codry is your third line center, um, I feel bad whoever Colorado has to play in the first round.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:49

I mean, it's like Team Canada. City Cosby is a third line center, like yeah.

Detroit’s Righty D Fix And More Adds

SPEAKER_01 1:16:54

No, yeah, and Codre is in year four of seven.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:00

Which ended up being age 38. So I wonder, is this his last run?

SPEAKER_01 1:17:06

So let's see. What's his cap hit now with seven mil? No, I know, but with the 20% retained, what's Colorado? What is Colorado paying him? That's what I want to know.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:24

Let's see, I'm gonna go try to find five and a half.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:28

I I I don't do math.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:33

Colorado's gonna pay him around five and a half? Five between five and five and a half.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:39

Let's see, what does it say here? Five point six. So yeah, you're right. You're you're close. You're right there. I was just curious. I mean a third line center now? That's crazy. That's so crazy.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:58

I think you go from your first line center and captain of the dune. Or no, he wasn't captain of the dune.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:03

No, he wasn't No. No, he's not the captain.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:06

No, he was an alternate.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:08

Are you talking cadre or codry, yeah. He was an alternate. Uh Backlund?

SPEAKER_04 1:18:16

Yeah, yeah. But I mean, still you go from what, first line center to third line center, but I mean you also go from a team that's going nowhere to probably the favorite for the Stanley Cup final or the Stanley Cup.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:31

So raise your hand if you're happy. Your team doesn't have to play Colorado the rest of the year in the regular season.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:39

You're not happy? I'm I'm not raising my hand because that means we have to play him next year. I said this season in Colorado.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:47

Yeah, but you never know what the Ducks are gonna do in the offseason, so true.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:52

But I mean, what what technically worst case scenario about this is maybe we see Colorado second round of the playoffs? Worst or best case scenario, Western Conference Final. I mean Yeah, that really just kills any chances of our second.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:17

Yeah. So, alright. We have another Kings trade, and this one had me scratching my head a little bit. Um, the LA Kings acquire Scott Lawton from the Toronto Maple Leafs for a conditional 2026 third-round pick that belongs to Ottawa right now. And the condition, Toronto will get the better of Ottawa or Washington's 2026 third-round pick. However, if both Ottawa and Washington do not qualify for the playoffs, then Ottawa will transfer to Toronto the worst of the two picks. And the event LA secures a spot in the 2026 Stanley Cup playoffs, the pick will become Buffalo's 2026 second round pick. And I guess they retained half too. So I was gonna say I'm looking at that. It didn't say anything that they retained, but yeah, so they got him at one and a half million. And so um I have a feeling I know why they made this trade. Is they have no centers in LA?

SPEAKER_04 1:20:31

I mean they're they're they're this almost seems like that they're picking up a younger center uh to cover Cory Perry's loss.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:38

Well, Cory Perry wasn't a center. He's a winger.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:45

So I always I always considered him a center because even though he wasn't technically a center, I mean he always played the center of position and he's stuck in front of the net. True.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:55

Um, but yeah, I think Scott Lon is just there to help help us with centers, and then hopefully they can maybe resign him. And he could be a good third line center for the Kings if they do resign him.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:09

Possibly.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:11

You know, he's good defensively, so he already fits the system.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:15

So does that mean Matthews is summoned at Anaheim?

Kadri Returns To Colorado

SPEAKER_01 1:21:19

Um yeah, then you'll have Lawton as your two C because they'll have no centers left after Matthews. Alright, uh, next trade is the Washington Capitals acquire David Camp from the Vancouver Canucks for a 2026 sixth round pick. I guess I think it's just like Washington just recuperating players just to play this year.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:46

Pretty much.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:47

Yeah. So not nothing really to add to that. Um, Ottawa Senators acquire Grum Clark from the Washington Capitals for Wyatt Bon Giano uh Giovanni. I think just a straight AHL trade.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:08

Yeah, there's no lap hits.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:10

And then the one that shocked me, this uh like not the trade, it was just where he went. Um uh Seattle Kraken acquire Bobby McMahon from the Toronto Maple Leafs for a conditional 2027 second round pick that belongs to the Blue Jackets and a 2026 fourth round pick uh that belongs to the Ducks. And let's see, what other people I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:40

I mean, are you really surprised that he went to Seattle? I mean, he's definitely gonna help out in Seattle.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:45

Oh no, he's definitely gonna help out in Seattle. Now the thing is, is he gonna re-sign there?

SPEAKER_04 1:22:51

That's a good question. I mean, he could very well just be a rental. I think it depends on the atmosphere that he gets into in Seattle.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:59

Yeah, see um the 2027 second round pick becomes um the condition is later of later of Columbus or Winnipeg's 2027 second-round picks. So it could either be Columbus or Winnipeg. But yeah, um that that was the last trade. Yeah, that's it. So like I said, if Bobby McMahon signed, re-signs with Seattle, then great on them. And they didn't have to spend you know Shane Wright or anything like that. I still think they're gonna try something in the offseason to get better, but Bobby McMahon is gonna really help them this year.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:42

That's true. I mean, but even though yes, even though that the trend deadline is over, does not mean trades still cannot happen for the rest of the season.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:53

I mean, we might see something by the end of the season, but it could very well be in the offseason.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:00

Yeah. So here's all the teams with their cap hits. Uh the projected gap hit for the Vegas Golden Knights is 107 million. There are 12 million over. Um Florida Panthers, who are nowhere even near the playoffs right now, they're they have 102 uh.83 million cap hit. The Islanders 99.27. The Devils, 98.63, the Stars 98.15, Edmonton 97.43, and the Lightning 96.54. All of them are in negative space right now. But I know some of them have I think that's including who they have and who's on LTIR too, because I know Florida has um Bark Off on injury reserve. Oh no what?

SPEAKER_04 1:25:01

No, I I I was just thinking of a meme that I saw it was either today or last night. Uh basically saying, you know, spring is officially becomes spring when uh Mark Stone is on the LTIR.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:19

Oh, that is so on point. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:23

If you said LTIR, that just kicked back into my brain and I just started laughing again because that was so funny.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:29

So every year instead of Groundhog Day, we should do Markstone LTIR Day.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:33

Yeah, pretty much. If I see that one again, I'll have to send it to you. I was crying.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:38

Oh my god, that is hilarious.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:42

Yeah, that was the funniest thing I've heard over the last couple of days.

Kings Pivot At Center

SPEAKER_01 1:25:46

Yeah, so the Ducks still have only$84.65 million dollars, so they still have plenty of cap space. It's funny, Detroit you has just a little bit more cap, not much, but Detroit, who's in a good spot right now, too, and they already have a lot of their players signed. So they're looking really good right now. Pittsburgh, who's in a good spot right now, they have a lot of space too. So now, who are your losers and winners so far that you would pick for the cat uh the trade deadline?

SPEAKER_04 1:26:25

I don't know. I mean, it's kind of I mean, obviously, Colorado's gonna win with Codery. Um, that's definitely a win. Um there's not a whole lot I would say people want. I would say there's maybe I mean I would say Carolina maybe picking up DeLauer is a win. Philly losing DeLaurier could be a loss for them. Calgary definitely lost just because they sold their team.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:59

Um well, okay. I mean, I would say that's a win for them because they got a lot of pieces back. You know, they did what they needed to do.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:10

Like they guess how long are those pieces gonna take to recuperate?

SPEAKER_01 1:27:14

Like yeah, but I think Calgary's in rebuild mode, so who cares?

SPEAKER_04 1:27:18

Yeah. I mean, I don't really like see like a clear loser in the trades this year, but you can definitely see like I mean Buffalo pick, you know, probably won their trades. I mean, obviously the Ducks, uh Colorado, Minnesota is making some big moves, like I don't I can't necessarily just say that like there's a clear loser in the trade this year. But you could definitely pick some high winners.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:50

Yeah. Well, I would say like all right, who's your biggest give me your top three biggest winners and your top three biggest losers? Like I I agree with you, Colorado winner. Um I would say Colorado, Buffalo, and is the biggest winners. I would say Utah is like a close one in there for winner top with Gen Weiger. Um I mean even Minnesota. Honestly, and the Kings. I can see because they they did pretty well. Like they're probably not gonna make in the play they're they didn't get worse, but they got good draft capital now. And it just sucks that but the only thing That sucks for them is it's Copatar's last year.

SPEAKER_03 1:28:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:43

So that's not gonna do them any good now, but in the future it could, and especially if because they need some center help badly. Um, Detroit, I thought, did well. They got Justin Falk, they didn't need to spend that much.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:57

Um, I would say clear loser.

SPEAKER_04 1:29:02

Um maybe.

Late Deals, Prospects, And Rentals

SPEAKER_01 1:29:08

No, Nashville, no, they did, but they they got rid of their death pieces, so they didn't really need to worry about that as much. Um I don't maybe maybe Toronto is a loser, but yeah. Uh I would say Florida, because I feel like they could have really helped themselves out if they would have traded some. I honestly I kind of expected Babrowski to get traded.

SPEAKER_04 1:29:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:37

You know, maybe go to San Jose or or Montreal. Yeah, maybe. Possibility. And then I mean V Vegas, I felt like they could have done better than just getting Cole Smith and uh Nick Dowd, I think is who they got.

SPEAKER_04 1:29:57

Yeah, but I mean like I say, I just I don't really foresee like a team losing like trades this year. Trades are pretty good. Obviously, some people got better better than others, but I mean, yeah, Calgary gets a lot of prospects and they're you know trying to rebuild. I don't know. I just I like I said, I don't really see anyone just coming out of the trade deadline being slapped in the face.

SPEAKER_03 1:30:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:33

Um so I I I think we both agreed the biggest surprise trade was Carlson to the Ducks.

SPEAKER_04 1:30:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:41

Because nobody expected that. I mean, even Codre to Colorado was a surprise, but it was not really, because we we heard we knew he was getting traded, and we knew we knew it was either Colorado or Montreal. We knew that for a while it was gonna be one of those two places.

SPEAKER_04 1:30:59

I figured it was gonna be Montreal because they just had more cap space there.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:04

I mean, not actually, not really.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:07

They haven't had more cap space than Colorado.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:09

No. Really? I mean, right now, current cap space, Colorado has um three million, and Montreal has 1.5 available.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:24

Oh, If I could have been Montreal would have had more than that.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:28

Let's see, Montreal, yeah, the projected cap space right now, just uh 300 just a little over 325,000 right now. And then Colorado come on, go back. Nope, too far. Uh Colorado has 638. So I think what's helping Colorado with that is come on. Um they have someone uh Logan on Connor is on LTIR with two and a half million. I thought I knew they had I thought they had somebody else too. Uh and and the good thing for Colorado is they have almost everyone re-signed. And they also oh, they got out of the um the Gerrard money. So that helped them save some money right there getting Kulak.

SPEAKER_03 1:32:29

Wow.

Cap Picture And LTIR Season

SPEAKER_01 1:32:31

You know, so yeah, because Kulak is a free uh is a free agent. Brent Burns is gonna be a free agent, and then Nick Blankenberg's gonna be a free agent. That's just on defense. On forwards, they have Jack Drury, who's gonna be an RFA. Zakar uh Bardakoff is gonna be an RFA. And then the only UFA is Yol um Kibiranta. So they're good on cap and the mut and the money's going up, so Colorado could be dangerous for a little bit. Yeah, I mean as long as they got Makar. The oh actually I didn't even look to see when is Makar up. It's not next year, it's the year after, I think. That's what's gonna screw them. Because right now Makar is only making he's making nine million right now. So um they can re-sign him on July 1st. That's just crazy. Yeah, Montreal has a lot of people signed. Oh, the what's oh that's why um Montreal has Patrick Lyonnais, but he's on LTIR. Or IR. And he's at an 8.7 cap hit.

SPEAKER_04 1:33:55

Wow. I mean if he was LTIR for the rest of the season, then they could lose that off the cap.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:03

Yeah, but no, he's on IR. I thought the Kings were really gonna go for him.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:14

I mean I could see it. I don't know if it would have happened though.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:21

But I mean I I I think it's gonna be a fun rest of the year. The ducks have one of the easiest schedules the rest of the year, and they're number one in the Pacific as of right now.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:35

So Yes, they are. I I'm a little worried about the scheduling though, but it'll be nice to kind of have that easy schedule for the rest of the year, but I also kind of wish we had some teams in there that are gonna test us, you know, get us a little bit more prepared for the playoffs.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:54

So here's the rest of March. So tomorrow, which is gonna be Sunday, we have the St. Louis Blues. I mean, they didn't fully dump, so they still got good players. Um, the Jets just are having a bad year. Toronto, bad year. Ottawa's still going for the playoffs. Montreal's in the playoffs. Um, we got the Philadelphia Flyers, which who knows where they're going. The Mammoths, who are gonna be a tough opponent, they're going for the playoffs. Sabres are number one, or I think number two in their division. Vancouver, bad. Calgary, bad. And then on the 28th, we have the Oilers, which there's a watch party at Brewery X for that one. I'm gonna go to that. So and then on the 30th, they have the Maple Leafs. And then April, they have the Sharks, who's still contending for a playoffs. The Blues for one more, Calgary, Nashville, and then the Sharks. And then Canucks, and then the last two games are away with um Minnesota and Nashville. So not a horrible schedule, and they still got tough opponents mixed in.

SPEAKER_04 1:36:22

What, Buffalo, Minnesota? Depending on which St.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:27

Louis wants to throw out the uh Utah and Edmonton. It is a very easy schedule, though.

Winners, Losers, And Biggest Surprises

SPEAKER_01 1:36:35

See the good thing is see the good thing about this is like they're not gonna have long road trips, and they're not gonna have long home stands. That's gonna hurt them either. So tomorrow's their last home game of I think they said nine home games or yeah, nine, a nine-game homestand. So tomorrow's the last one against the blues. They then they go on a four-game road trip uh across Canada, Winnipeg, Toronto, Ottawa, Montreal. Then they come home for Philadelphia, then away to Utah, home for Buffalo, then a little Western Canada road trip, Vancouver, Calgary, Edmonton, home for Toronto, and then up to San Jose for one game, back home for five games, and then oh the last two games are away. So not a bad split schedule. No, and there's what a whole lot of problems. Let's see, one they only have one back-to-back left. Yeah, which I don't know why people were saying, of course, it was the one person that Ducks fans can't stand. Um his name runs with Frank Sierravali. He was saying the Ducks should go get a a better backup, and I'm like, why? Like, I mean, who's those done a great job backing up? I mean, yeah, it would so, but I'm like, are we gonna need that backup for what how many games out of the last 20 something games? One no, I would say maybe two, like I would say the most five.

SPEAKER_04 1:38:22

I'm joking around to saying that the one that we need the backup for is that back to back.

SPEAKER_01 1:38:26

Yeah. Yeah. No, I I that's what I was thinking about. I was like, no, I could see them giving who so like three or four total out of the last twenty.

SPEAKER_04 1:38:35

Well, I mean, it also depends too of you know where we're at. The qual the quality of where so solved at too.

SPEAKER_00 1:38:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:38:43

So like I said very well they hit a slump where they're like, well, we need to start him for or who so for a couple of games.

SPEAKER_01 1:38:51

Yeah. 100%. But on that, uh I I think this was a great tread down trade deadline recap. That was good, that was fun. Yeah. It was it was so much nicer not having my dad in it. No, I'm just kidding. Um, before we get out of here, you wanna um plug anything in?

SPEAKER_04 1:39:12

Yes. So March 14th, the Patriots are doing a 30 event with the Ontario Ring. It's gonna be in uh partnership with Operation Sick Care. What we're doing is it's called a gate with a hero. So basically it's gonna be an open gate before the ring game where people get to come out and get rambled gates and get around the ice with the Patriots out there. But we're also gonna be doing um, I believe we're trying to get the Rivical Stars out there, which is the Ricardo Stars Department. So that's on March 14th, uh next Saturday. Uh depending on at least as of this recording. Um next week we're doing that. Also the LA papers, we are doing a tournament in LA out of our home link of Alpha Dunda, where the Kings play. Uh we're doing an LAPD tournament for what is it, Thursday, Friday, and Saturday of next week as well. So it's got a lot going on this weekend coming up for us.

SPEAKER_01 1:40:17

Yeah. Well, that's that's good. Uh I like but um have you guys done anything with the like the Kings?

SPEAKER_04 1:40:25

Yeah, we've um we've done it in the past, we haven't done it recently, but we're trying to go we're trying to get stuff going with them as well again.

SPEAKER_01 1:40:33

So if you do anything with the LAPD stuff, if you check them a little too hard, do you get arrested on the ice or how does that work?

SPEAKER_04 1:40:40

I don't know. I mean, if we hit one of their guys, maybe they jump us and beat us and nothing happens, you know. Who knows?

SPEAKER_01 1:40:47

Are there sticks made out of baton uh of those batons? I hope not. That would hurt. Yeah. That would really hurt.

SPEAKER_04 1:40:56

Yeah, yeah. I've I've been around those batons before, so I know that they can hurt. I wouldn't have been hit by I haven't been hit by them, but I've I've seen them.

Ducks’ Run-In Schedule And Goalie Plan

SPEAKER_01 1:41:05

Yeah, I've seen them, I've I haven't been anywhere near them, thank god. So now everyone, please go check out um Patriots hockey on social media. I whenever you guys send me stuff, I always post it right away. So I know Adam Andrea work really hard on that. I know it's probably more Andrea than Adam.

SPEAKER_06 1:41:25

Both of us.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:26

I'd say it's more Andrea. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:41:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:29

So, and then I know you guys have the stay classy tournament coming up in July, August.

SPEAKER_04 1:41:34

July 31st, August 1st, and August 2nd.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:37

Yeah, more likely you're not seeing my dad on the 31st because that's my parents' anniversary. Yeah, you never know.

SPEAKER_04 1:41:43

But Mama Duck might uh quack might want to go out there and uh I already know that.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:47

That's a no.

SPEAKER_04 1:41:48

And doesn't want to spend a weekend in San Diego.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:51

That uh she probably wouldn't mind, it's just the hockey ring thing.

SPEAKER_04 1:41:55

She hasn't had to spell to the hockey ring.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:57

Yeah, true. But she can go enjoy the beach. That is true. She does like the beach, so and I I enjoy the beach as well. So um, what arena is it held at?

SPEAKER_04 1:42:09

Uh the State Classic Tournament's gonna be at the San Diego Ice Arena in Mira Mesa. In Mira Mesa, okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:42:17

Is it is it like what just one sheet of ice or is there multiple rates?

SPEAKER_04 1:42:23

It's one sheet of ice. We uh the State Classy Tournament literally splits it in half, and then we have a two three-on-three games going at once.

SPEAKER_01 1:42:32

Damn, that can get confusing. No, not really. No? Okay. You don't hear random ice and then both games stop.

SPEAKER_04 1:42:39

No, I mean you hear it, but you learn to tone it out after a couple of years of playing it. Got it.

SPEAKER_01 1:42:46

I know that's the one thing I hit. I'm never a hockey person playing, but I with a soccer terminist, when you hear a whistle from the other field, you're like, and everyone just stops and you realize, oh, keep going.

SPEAKER_04 1:42:56

Well, usually with the the state classy tournament with continuous play, like I mean, unless there's uh a penalty, which not even all of the time is really like a big deal. Um, what happens is like instead of like serving a penalty, if your team gets a penalty, they just like take away one of your goals.

SPEAKER_01 1:43:19

Oh, okay. So it kind of speeds up the process.

SPEAKER_04 1:43:23

Yeah, because I mean the games are only a half hour apiece. Like you have, you know, uh two 15-minute periods. You're you know constantly at the running clock instead of you know having like a it would be kind of weird having like a four-on-three, you know, power play or a three-on-two, you know, penalty kill you have to deal with. So if you lose or if you if you take a penalty, then they basically just take a goal away from you.

SPEAKER_01 1:43:49

What happens if you have zero goals?

SPEAKER_04 1:43:51

Then you're in the negative.

SPEAKER_01 1:43:53

Wait, really? Can you imagine it's like 10 to negative 10?

SPEAKER_04 1:44:00

I've I've seen where the game started out, like the game started off like zero to negative two. I think at the end of the day, they'll just count it as a zero score, like they won't count it as a negative score, but you can go into the negative because I've seen it before.

SPEAKER_01 1:44:17

So has it happened where a team like it was like a negative one to zero? No, I've never seen a final score like that. That'd be something.

SPEAKER_04 1:44:27

Yeah, that'd be an interesting game, too.

SPEAKER_01 1:44:30

Right? Especially like three on three for that long.

SPEAKER_04 1:44:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:44:36

So, but no, everyone, like I said, please go follow the Patriots hockey. Go to the State Classy, go to the March 14th at the Ontario Rain. You said it's a skate before the game, correct?

SPEAKER_04 1:44:47

Yeah, it's gonna be uh 1.45 in the afternoon. We're gonna skate before the game. And it's basically just an open skate, like you know, you put on skates and go out on the ice. There's no hockey played. It like I said, it's it it's uh an event where you can actually go out and skate with the Patriots players and like learn more about them.

SPEAKER_01 1:45:05

Okay, that'd be cool. Uh uh if I go, I'd I don't I won't go anywhere near you. I already know you too well, sadly.

SPEAKER_04 1:45:12

Well, I will be playing in our LAPD tournament, so there's a possibility I won't be there.

SPEAKER_01 1:45:18

So then I'll definitely go. Um no, everyone go go please go check out uh Patriots hockey. It's a good for a good cause and everything. And as I said, I I like the whole program that you guys have, so and everything. So like I said, I know you guys worked a lot worked very hard putting all that together.

SPEAKER_04 1:45:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:45:40

I saw Andrea just running around that golf tournament trying to make sure everything was done. So I I I could tell she was I know she wanted to have good, I know I could tell she had a good time, but you could tell like she was her mind was like, I do this, do this, I gotta do this, make sure that gets done. You could just tell.

SPEAKER_04 1:45:57

Yeah, there's definitely uh a lot of uh blood, sweat, and tears we put into this organization.

Community Events And Closing CTAs

SPEAKER_01 1:46:02

Oh yeah, so but it's all for it's all for a good cause. So yeah, but yeah, that's gonna wrap it up on this year's uh trade deadline recap. Um the that we'll have a regular episode. We'll go live in about an hour, actually. So so it's it's two o'clock p.m. right now in p in the Pacific. So and then uh are are you gonna be in the comments causing chaos or yeah, I'll be there.

SPEAKER_04 1:46:26

I'll be there in the comments causing chaos. Maybe uh maybe sneak in there and uh zip on your dad for a while.

SPEAKER_01 1:46:33

I'll I'll send you the I'll send you the link. I'll text you if I'm gonna come in. I'll send you the links that way you can just pop in. That way I can I can just add you in. So that shouldn't be too hard. Sounds good. But yeah, more than likely I'll be in the comments causing the chaos. Perfect. Sounds good, man. All right. Well, thank you everyone. Uh, please go follow Patriots Hockey, go follow Royally Quacked on all social media, hit the download button, hit the like and subscribe buttons, and we will see you soon. So there'll be two episodes coming out this week. So, because there won't be one next week. So, or no, there will be one next week. Just uh the week before after that, there won't be, since I'll be coming back from Nashville. So, all right, we'll see you guys later, and we'll see you in about an hour.

SPEAKER_03 1:47:21

So, yeah.